I posted this some time ago and thought you might find it interesting:
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Looks like a great thread. I have to pull myself away for a bit, I will dig into it though. You know, I feel like what I did with the routing was actually a success. So I think itâs important to hesitate there and kind of have a âwowâ moment.
For anyone else I would say be forewarned about all of the tiny factors that can have you scratching your head for an hour. Like:
Did you plug usb hub and the camera connection kit into the iphone in the right order?
Did Audulus just crash again?
Did Gadget just drop the bluetooth connection between devices?
Did your sound card somehow become disengaged in Ableton?
EtcâŚ
So, one of the nice bits about the reface library is, like I mentioned, complete objects. It is impossible to avoid troubleshooting, so working with complete objects helps the mind eliminate factors when working with visual node based logics. So it is less a matter of getting the patches right, as it is getting the modules to be fool proof, standardized, etc. There are still so many little things I have to watch out for (converting gates to triggers, etc., etc,.).
So, again, I will continue to work on this, just have other responsibilitiesâŚ
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I do this all the time with Yarns/Disting and the Digitakt and it definitely does work.
Yes. The takeaway would be to use a hard clock, but send the musical midi data over bluetooth. However, I suspect you may not have yet tried controlling Audulus with Gadget on a separate device. One of the upsides is this now frees up the ES-8. I am actually interested to see what it will be like to use Audulus as only midi inputs with synths (just voices), then do all the sequencing in Gadget.
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Iâve done a couple of things using Live as the sequencer controlling Audulus running standalone. Iâve set up an IAC MIDI bus to send MIDI from Live to Audulus and I bring the audio back via an analog connection from the ES-8 to my Focusrite interface. (if I had an ES-9 I could use the SPDIF and stay digital) Iâve also used Soundflower to send the audio, but it introduces some additional lag. Of course when the new AU is available this wonât be necessary. There are several good sequencers available for Live in addition to the built-in capabilities, particularly if you have Max for Live. Using an external device as the sequencer can simplify the timing sync issues.
I really love the clocks. For the importance of the modules, this is buried in the forum. I have made the case before that getting some separation between module posting and thread talk is important. IMO, the reason NI Reaktor has been resilient for 10 years is because they did there module archiving organization well. AnywaysâŚ
I find it irritating to dial in a bpm on an iOS device because the dial is too sensitive. I donât see a need to set the decimal value as well. Is it easy to change this so that it just rounds the number?
I know what you mean about the online library. Discouse doesnât make it very easy. We tried to organize the Module library as well as we could but the only way to prevent people from adding to the thread is to make the category read only which means someone then has to curate submissions. Not too much of a problem for NI but tough for a one man shop.
The integer rounding is simple. I just changed the round to tenths for a round to integer module. Note that if you use an external clock it will use whatever beat frequency it detects, so if you send 101.456, thatâs what the clock will run at even though it displays 101. The knob will set it to exact integers.
Master Clocks V1.1 integer BPM.audulus (497.5 KB)
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I think I have layed out the Reaktor situation about 4 times. Itâs not about scale, itâs about separating the module posting website from the forum itself. Youâre right, Audulus is not Native Instruments. But that is beside the point of examining whether or not to have modules posted on a separate site. As you start to grow this will become harder. The move into Discourse was a seed change â fantastic. Horrray.
But look what we have. Master clocks buried in a long thread. That is not a good way to position a product â full stop. When I have my head deep in my engine all I want to know is what I need to do to fix it. I do a lot of maintenance in life and either the ceiling is leaking or it isnât. Sometimes I walk past broken things for six months and then one day a solution pops into my head. I have noticed that looking for upsides at the wrong moment can get in the way of easy fixes. âItâs not perfect but itâs better than it wasâ is a great motto. But I am always still scratching my head.
The clocks matter for syncing integration. There are a lot of people in all industries who will do without flashy new things if the alternative is tight. I have noticed that, really, the forum is our collective memory. This forum is better than Reaktorâs, but Reaktors builder/module/synth management system is better than this one in some important ways.
I like the insider trading. Itâs cute and I like that this is small. Itâs kind of not fair to newcomers or people with limited time â it also does not do justice to the astonishing value here.
The idea isnât to abandon or look down on this organic object, but simply table ideas about doing it even better than NI. Then NI gets inspired and so on. To me, between the two I prefer to take the loss and remain here. But I still walk by that sticky handle, the loud cupboard, the finicky window or the plant that struggles on the west side of the house. But I am also aware that trying to make something better can always make it a lot worse.
For example, as I downloaded this updated module I have to share it to Dropbox, rename it from .txt to .audulus then share it to Audulus. I am working with it, but these small barriers are mountains for the initiate.
Also, for the last 6 months audulus freezes every third time I open it. If I was nervous and performing, I might think it was some other issue and screw up my confidence and have a terrible experience.
The Reaktor User Library. Thatâs what itâs called.
But, again, this forum is better than theirs so it would seem to me that it is a matter of besting both.
I would think that, these days, a site like that would take a day to make and would self manage. Also, there are a lot of smart people here in the shadows that could pull that off quick and if you could track the difference in end consumer interest the return on investment would justify the transition. But I donât think people like this kind of talk.
Itâs not about making bank, itâs about having the support to repair the monastery that houses the ancient scrolls. 
In this case Iâll take the blame. I really should have posted the clocks in the Library rather than in this thread. The big barrier for me is the time it takes to properly document the module. Sometimes I let it slip when I shouldnât.
Donât forget that even a simple website can be a significant expense. You have to pay for domain registration, hosting, security etc. As soon as you add any kind of authentication the problems get much worse. Of course itâs possible to do some of it yourself but then itâs a significant investment in time. I do wish that Discourse made it easier to move individual replies rather than the current all or nothing approach.
I use the Shortcuts app which allows you to download, rename and save directly to Audulus. Both Discourse and Safari are following the ârules of the gameâ by adding the .txt extension. Safari doesnât recognize .audulus as a known file type and the info that Discourse sends is that the file contains text which is accurate, so Safari adds .txt just to be safe. BTW the macOS version does the same since a few versions back. Itâs a PITA but makes sense from a security point of view. On macOS you have the option to display a dialog where you can choose the download location and rename, but so far iOS does not. Shortcuts does make the process pretty simple.
I am the kind of person who just gets the damn ceiling fixed.
3 out of 4 of your points are 
meh.
Domain names are $5 a year. If we were in a board meeting do you think that piling up those three counterconsiderations would make you appear as a strong contributing member in guiding the future of a company or someone who would be more effective in a drawn out pitched court battle?
I know most of the moves; itâs always the same game. The great idea is always the one that seems impractical or something people have being staring at so long that the new employee just appears naive. But then some people grind under the inefficiencies for years. They make small changes and slowly earn trust. Then the day comes that people are on holidays or the two alphas catch the flu, the grinder puts his ass on the line and bang, the useless pile of junk in the corner that he kindly asked them to sort through this now neatly organized on a shelf. We know this story.
âWhy are there so many problems in the world?â Because too many people think engineers are superior to philosophers; because there is something gutterally wrong about executing on someone elseâs suggestions, and so onâŚ
Rome was not built in a day. But it was built. We North Americans need to learn to build cathedrals together that might span 7 generations. It is common to conflate agreement with understanding, as though I am trying to convince you of something. This is wrongheaded. Once the two are separate, the proposal can be handed off to the engineers. Canât we adopt this type of language into cottage industry; could Audulus be a concrete example of how we might organize ourselves instead of expecting politicians to shape man by a set of rules?
When you get deep into academic philosophy it is like constructing a castle of hairs in a windstorm. But for those of us who know the work needs to be done, we value the process and trust the outcomes based on gains made by people like Descartes and Frege, who made programming possible by revealing the machanics of sequencing (bracketing[supposing]) on the one hand, and the quantification of force in sentences on the other hand.
My turn away from programming and toward philosophy was a conscientious decision which, I believe, is justified by the way I said what I just did. It is the type of self-limitation that makes NCAA tournaments fulfilling to watch. It is the ability to maintain the coaches plan and always fake the shot to draw the defenders away from the scorers.
This thread could stand for a hundred years and I am confident that someone can read between these lines.
- I have always felt that the purpose here on Earth is soul growth. In that vein, I have also noticed that everyone can DIY everything. Itâs just about motivation and commitment. But doing it together seems to be our modern challenge. In skateboarding, everything seems impossible. Until someone does it once and people see. Then it spreads like wildfire. Growing new human patterns can happen in the most unlikely places. Donât count us out here on the forum in 2020. Hope.
I am going to add more in the hope that you wonât have to waste your precious time pointing out problems I can plainly see as well.
There is a sense in which when a person speaks, they hear themselves. Some people, I have noticed, are not able to weave new thoughts on the spot. I am the opposite. It almost takes the opportunity of dialogue to build some new perspective. Because I have worked on some of these concepts for a long time, it might seem like I sat down and spent time writing. But most of it is off the cuff.
I think that when it is off the cuff there is a greater chance that I can be shown how to think better. The heart of things is less buried. Who said âanything worth doing is worth doing terribly at first?â
While I can look at what I wrote from the devilâs advocate standpoint, I can also start to see pathways opening up.
For example, look at all the work that @biminiroad did on documentation. With Reaktor, that just happens on its own through contribution. Couldnât a portion of it be cut and pasted?
I wanted to pose that not for its own sake but for the sake of revealing the gravity of what I was suggesting â the man hours necessary even if the four counterconsiderations you brought up were addressed. Itâs potentially nuts. That is, unless there is a break where the past is not fully incorporated but simply gestured at, and the new platform I am suggesting does not take the place of anything but just lives as a tiny option, one would need to hire a small team.
I almost feel like you donât need to respond â like things can just be left as they are. Sounds like we are going to get the âmodule browserâ similar to what a user constructed ad hoc for Reaktor. Maybe in that idea there is some room for imagining something other than âmanaging a website.â
VCV Rack had or may still have some wierd library issues as well. Notice how it isnât organized by kind or type. All you get is an alphabetical list of the name of the module or the author. You cant sort by oscillators, filters, etc. Picture that in a grocery store. There would be no meat department, so to to speak.
Letâs all agree that that is insane. Then, let me back out of here with all my knowledge of Audulus modules and where to find them and leave this happy mess for others. The whole thing leaves me at a great advantage. Iâll just stuff it all in my knapsack and leave it up to you guys and the other users.