1-Toast (after the 0-Coast)

Will those changes give 1-Toast more of the ā€˜in the faceā€™ waveshaping that the 0-Toast has?

I have a question about the ā€˜compatā€™ 1-Toast Defaultā€™ module in the fun pack ā€“ the one on the bottom right. Does the slope have any impact when it isnā€™t cycling?

I am a total newb and it is taking me a while to get a hang of analyzing patches.

Thanks so much for your great creations.

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A little bit. The 0-Toast mixes the slope signal in with the oscillator past 2 Oā€™Clock on the timbre knob. Also, in A4 I can use samples of the 0-Coast waveforms rather than approximations, which should enhance verisimilitude. The same goes for the non-linear response of the wavefolder.

That said, I did try to emulate the 0-Coast I have in my possession as best I could. Of course, as time goes on and my understanding continues to improve hopefully so too will my modules :slight_smile:

No, because thatā€™s the default for the 0-Coast.

Thanks for taking the time to play with them :smiley:

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Thanks for the clarifications. I need to study the 0-Coast manual and some of the posted patches to understand it better. I am new to the West Coast/O-Coast paradigm and appreciating the sounds that the architecture unleashes.

Iā€™d love to hear some of the music people are making with these modules.

Audulus makes appearances at some level in most of the songs on this album.

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Itā€™s a great album! :cowboy_hat_face:

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@robertsyrett:

Is the Slopeā€™s ā€˜mā€™ input, the same as what was called ā€˜Timeā€™ in the earlier 0-Toast version?

In a video talk in which Tony Rolando shows of the 0-Coast, he mentions that multiply uses square waves at several different frequencies to introduce harmonics. Do you have a sense of what he means by that? In the demo that I heard, the effect of turning up multiply almost sounds like hard-sync.

Curious to know your thoughts. Thanks.

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I will have to get back to on that one. I have loaned my 0-Coast out at the moment, so I canā€™t plug it in to check. One of the things I have come to love about makenoise products is that they have the quality control of a proper manufacturer, as you expect of a former Moog employee, but they have a lot of authorial modding, almost like a circuit bending quality, to the internal routing. They are also kind of koy about what things actually do. For example they have these Ā”Ā”!! inputs on the new QPAS module that they explicitly do not explain, ā€œto encourage creative patch exploration.ā€

So I think in part, directly reverse engineering the 0-Coast, might be kind of missing the point. So for the most part I am just using my ears and trying to make the sounds match and the interface feel the same. The actual mechanisms are my own invention.

That said, the more I learn, the more I would like to revise and improve the 1-Toast design and maybe try and make something more accurate and mor my own.

Thanks.

What about the other question? Is the ā€˜mā€™ input on 1-Toast as the earlier 0-Toastā€™s time input?

The thing that impresses me about the demos I have heard of the 0-Coast (and I gather that this is true of their other models ā€“ but I am super new to West Coast synthesis) is that it captures the musicality of Buchlaā€™s designs without being a copycat.

Something that they share (at least from the demos of Buchlas and 0-Coast that Iā€™ve heard) is an interesting balance of musicality and harshness as you drive the wavefolder. There is a really cool harmonic sweep as you crank them.

That is correct! I think ā€œmā€ is to indicate that this parameter responds to unipolar modulation.

I bought Audulus to try out the 1-Toast. I downloaded it and opened it up in Audulus but
I canā€™t figure out how to trigger it.
Pressing the keyboard does nothing. How do I trigger it? Sorry, Iā€™m a complete newbie.

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You will need to a midi input/output module. Also, you need to connect the output to a speaker module. Here is a simple setup to control it from a speaker.

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Thank you so much! It works perfectly :slightly_smiling_face:

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@espiegel123 Thanks for covering this one!

@Momotaro Thanks for checking out 1-Toast :slight_smile:

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@espiegel123 if youā€™re real interested in messing with tangible west coast, but not yet ready to invest $500 to buy the real 0-Coast, check out the Korg Volca Modular! I got it when it first came out, along with the Minilogue XD, and (even though the XD is bigger and way more capable) the Volca Modular is easily my favorite thing I own, and there is so much fun and interesting ways to use it in your projects! I am also learning a lot about synthesis from it. If you like this patch, and the west coast approach, the VM is a great start for $200 (even less if you catch one of the people that just donā€™t understand how it works and what it is capable of, who seem to be selling it barely used at ~$140-150). Happy patching! :slight_smile:

Thanks for the message. So far, the demos of the Volca Modular that I have heard havenā€™t impressed me. I havenā€™t heard one in person, but what I heard hasnā€™t blown me away the way 0-Toast recordings that I have heard do.

Are you finding the sound quality impressive ?

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@espiegel123 - Sorry about my delay. I have been ultra busy with work and some other projects I am working on, so I havenā€™t had a chance to get on here for more than like 5 mins since you messaged me.

Anyway, personally, I absolutely think it is awesome; the capabilities and sounds coming out of this little box are superb and a whole lot of fun for sonic experimentation (the best thing is that I think it has an internally protected circuit to protect dumb noobs like me from myself lol - Korg mentions in the manual that thereā€™s really no wrong way to connect it, and so sources can mistakenly be plugged into sources while learning, (I personally did this when I first got it) and it comes out no worse when you realize your mistake), so for what it is and the price point really canā€™t be beat as far as hardware, IMO.

I mean, the built in speaker is a bit crunchy, but it is good enough to give you a good idea of what you are building. When I have a cool patch I wanna sample for a project, I plug mine into my PreSonus Eris 3.5 monitors, and that makes it sound great. If you have monitors or an aux input on a better set of speakers or something like that (MacBook mic input perhaps?) you will get much better sound out of it. I am working on putting a short but demonstrative approach to what it can do. I will share it when I finish it. :slight_smile:

Iā€™ll be interested to hear what you come up with.

I guess for me what Iā€™ve heard so far sounds good but doesnā€™t sound better to my ear than what my soft synths can generate ā€” as opposed to the 0-Coast demos Iā€™ve heard.

Volca modular may sound a lot better than the demos that have been posted, of course. So, my mind is open. FWIW, I am interested in great sound ā€” hardware that sounds good but not great isnā€™t compelling to me.

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@espiegel123 I have the video file shared from my dropbox at the following link:

Edit: click here for video, file doesnā€™t play in forum player for some reason

I hear what youā€™re saying about the software doing all that you want it to do; a lot of my software does that too, but I felt like the value of not having to spend a bunch of time mapping controls to my MIDI controller or mess with a [computer] keyboard and mouse was worth a few dollars. I am someone who gets easily distracted and wander off from what I intended to do, if I am not staying fully engaged in my process. Now that I have a few pieces of actual gear (this one being my absolute favorite), I understand why some people prefer hardware only. I still love the best of both worlds, but I can see the other side of things now.

Also it took me a few days to make something I felt worthwhile, as each time I thought I had my best example to show you, I would think of another awesome thing I wanted to try, and it set me back some more time of being wonderfully lost in sonic experimentation and exploring the endless possibilities I could create. I seriously love this thing. I figured it would be best to just let you hear from the actual speaker on the VM, and let you decide if itā€™s something you would be interested in. Either way, I hope you will find this to be an interesting demo. I sure had fun making it :slight_smile:

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Thanks for taking the time to share that. It looks like fun.

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I thought you might also be interested to know this, as it can be applied to not only the Volca Modular or the 0-Coast, but seemingly all physical modular hardware, if I am properly understanding, which was an exciting breakthrough for me when I discovered the details discussed in this thread :smile:

https://discourse.audulus.com/t/volca-modular-cv-w-audulus/1841/15?u=stevo3985