Combining Audulus with Korg Gadget on iPad

[robertsyrett]

This thread is for everything Audulus+Korg Gaadget. This includes, but not limited to:

Routing Midi
Routing Audio
Routing CV through an ES-8

and more (this list will grow with time)

[robertsyrett]

This thread started elsewhere let me link to some of the previous posts:

After All, Isn't it About the Music?

I am trying to think of a way to get Gadget to control Audulus using Taipei. I am thinking a workaround might be to run Audulus on the iPhone and send bluetooth over midi from Gadget on the iPad to Audulus on the iPhone. Then I wouldn’t have that brick wall with the ES-8 in/out conflict when you try to run Audulus and a DAW on the same device. Might try that later today. Has anyone tabled the idea that the guy who made AUM might be able to get rid of this conflict with some simple changes t…

After All, Isn't it About the Music?

I will give this issue some serious attention tomorrow, but I think if you can route Gadget into Audulus and then record externally with a field recorder or disting.

After All, Isn't it About the Music?

I think sometimes it is hard to see why these things are more fundamental than other features, until you get yourself into a situation with your gear and you hit a wall. I hit this wall last October. There is still so much to love, but this is my main wall. Just thinking about using Gadget as a piano roll/modulation tracker, while bringing that information into Audulus as MIDI (via Taipei), then driving knobs and notes in Audulus patches using that Gadget MIDI data. I am about to try that …

After All, Isn't it About the Music?

okay. that took five minutes. I really just guessed around with the routing and got lucky I think. What is pretty amazing is I can play a note on Taipei on the iPad and it goes over bluetooth to my iPhone with AUM and Audulus, whereby I get a MIDI note and gate which I can then wire to the ES-8 module, which then can control the Euro rack. So, essentially it is a workaround to get Gadget to sequence a Eurorack by using two ios devices + AUM + Audulus. I wonder if this is of an…

After All, Isn't it About the Music?

Is there a strategy to grab the CC# knobs and XY Pad coordinates to modulate Audulus? [37%20PM] No, can’t be that simple. Sure enough, I twist a knob in Taipei and it then controls the pitch bend in Audulus on my iPhone. Amazing. Is there a way to grab the the bare knob response and send it out to the ES-8? Yes, under nodes. [Image-1] Just MIDI CC learn that knob, then move one in Taipei. Hook the knob up to the ES-8. Cordless modulation.

[futureaztec]

So it looks like I can multi-channel cv sequence out of the ES-8, using Gadget in the way described above. I mean, in terms of writing/arranging this is really exciting.

I am partly cheating though. I have a MacBook that is hooked up to the elektron Analog Four through USB. What this does is provide transport/reset/clock sync from the MacBook through Ableton Link over to the Analog Four. Again, this makes sure the iPad and A4 are transport synced.

Not sure if there is a workaround there. Audulus is not getting its clock directly from this signal, but instead is receiving a clock from mBrane (Yarns) which is getting it from the Analog 4 MIDI out.

• It also allows you to use your iPad with a MIDI keyboard for wireless control over the ES-8. So you can play/sequence your eurorack from the couch.

[robertsyrett]

Audulus is not getting its clock directly from this signal

You can always make a midi clock in Gadget by making a 1-bar loop that is just a 1/32 note every 1/16 beat (50% PW) on channel 16 (or any channel really). But I like the Link method, that will make it easy to keep the A4 in line with it’s friends.

Also, you can use the laptop to record the mix? That will make life easy

[robertsyrett]

Is there a strategy to grab the CC# knobs and XY Pad coordinates to modulate Audulus? [37%20PM] No, can’t be that simple. open_mouth Sure enough, I twist a knob in Taipei and it then controls the pitch bend in Audulus on my iPhone.

This is a great hack for playing the screen keyboard and tweaking a screen knob in audulus. Glad that this “just works.”

Sadly if you close audulus, all the Taipei tracks in Gadget forget that they were routed to Audulus and default to “No Output.”

[robertsyrett]

Ok, so of you DON’T use Aum and are mindful of your es-8 inputs and outputs the two apps seem to share them quite well, summing the output signals.

I was able to send gadget drums out channel 1 and 2, fm pad from Audulus out 3, and clock cv from gadget sent to Audulus over midi. I messed with the pad using maths and a disting and recorded it in Gadget through input 1 on Zurich, the tape recorder gadget.

I was able to export to ableton, but it only exported the portion of my recording that was in the loop. I wonder how I would get longer recordings out of it.

[futureaztec]

Ok, so if you DON’T use Aum and are mindful of your es-8 inputs and outputs the two apps seem to share them quite well, summing the output signals.

I don’t quite understand what you did there. Were you just using one device and routing the midi internally, or were you using MIDI over bluetooth with Gadget and Audulus on separate devices?

[robertsyrett]

Same device. I’m just routing the audio out of channel 3 (from audulus) of the ES-8 and back in through channel 1 (through gadget).

Midi is routed internally without a third party app.

[futureaztec]

[robertsyrett]

Live guitar accompaniment?

[futureaztec]

It’s a guitar-like instrument. I was excited to get something done with Taipei and Audulus.

[robertsyrett]

I got off to a good start yesterday and actually fleshed out a song with Gadget/Audulus and the modular but got distracted by MC-707 videos. But I got a good night’s sleep and am ready to get back at it!

[stschoen]

I was playing with the new synths, but got sidetracked watching a Keith Emerson video, which led to watching a 1972 Yes concert. YouTube is great but can be a bit addictive. Watching Emerson and Wakeman and Howe, I realize that even if I had practiced religiously from a very early age, I never would have been that good. Somewhat depressing but also liberating in a strange way. Kind of lets you enjoy what you can do rather than worry about what you can’t.

[robertsyrett]

Ok, do we have a module that breaks out midi from drum tracks to individual triggers somewhere?

I tried to hash out a temporary patch but the A==B I was using wasn’t matching incoming notes for some reason.

[J031]

You could use trigger notes and give them the midi cc chanels of the midi notes that come in.

[robertsyrett]

I’m not sure how you would use the midi CC, please explain a little more.

[J031]

Sorry for the misleading answer. Midi CC was the wrong term here.
I meant that you could use the ‘Learn Midi Note‘ feature of the trigger node.
This way you could have separate gate signals for certain incoming midi notes.

[robertsyrett]

Thanks for clarifying. I will try this out tomorrow.

[stschoen]

You could also use this Polyphonic MIDI Trigger with Velocity

[futureaztec]

One thing that has been on my mind would be a way to derive a trigger from a pitch value. Obviously pitch values are more complicated than triggers. But, I would think the two happen at the same time. So why can’t one just pull a trigger signal from a pitch output without having to send both pitch and gate/trig out of two separate outputs. Of course, one doesn’t always want envelopes opening right at the note change, but often I do.

However, even if one could pull two separate cv’s out of one ES-8 output, one would still need to split that signal. That is, one would need another outboard device maybe? Could it be passive… hmmm.