Announcement: No Windows/Linux version of Audulus 4

I for one am very disappointed that after waiting two years for the Windows Audulus 4 it will never happen. Such is life. I may check out the iOS Audulus 4 version when released.

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Actually, the non-pro iPads (generation 6 I believe ) are quite similar in performance to the first generation of pro-iPads and several times faster than the pre 2017 non-Pro ipads. It gives a lot of bang for the buck.

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These charts are useful for choosing Apple equipment, particularly used, as you can see the processing power of the older models can be very good. On Mac OSX you just want to make sure that you don’t get too old a machine that will not be supported for many more years

iOS - the iPad gen 6 is more powerful than iPad Pro gen 1

https://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks

Mac OS - A 2012 iMac or MacBook Pro has similar or greater power for probably $500-$750

https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks

Too bad. Thought about buying the software for Win, and now it seems to be impossible to purchase it. How about selling the old Windows version 3 software at a really good price? Could be attractive for a lot of people, especially for learning purposes. (AAS does this with Tassman.)

I am just getting into the domain of modulars and have to look for alternatives now.

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(Defeated sad trumpet sound)

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I just want to make a point about cost – take it with a grain. I used DOS and had a BBS (a pre-internet dialup host site, with connections to major databases through relays). Then Windows came along as kind of a overlay on top of DOS. From my view, Windows never really worked properly (sorry if you love it but I have always found it a pain). Sometimes I used Macs in the computer room/music room at school and they always seemed special, though very niche, since most of the games were available on PC and the piracy was a lot easier and more common, which probably drove the development of the hardware so fast.

Then the iPod came along and seemed to give Apple the momentum to properly market their design philosophies to mainstream consumers. We are currently still in this bubble (the iPod/Macbook bubble).

I have noticed that because of this bubble, you can find a lot of used mac gear locally. I tracked down 6 year old Macbook Pro that a graphic designer was selling (so it was fully loaded for his job), for a very reasonable price. I also found an iPad Mini 4 unopened in a box for a really good price – which replaced a fried iPod Touch that was also bought “used” brand new in the box.

Something to think about.

  • Too bad about Linux though. I have always wanted to just be a Linux person.
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I would agree with you regarding Windows. Although my first personal computer was an Apple II (16K of RAM and a cassette player for program storage) and I owned an original Macintosh, I moved to PC’s about the time Windows was introduced. Cost was the primary consideration. Macs were and continue to be significantly more expensive than PC for systems with comparable specs. I would argue that this low cost coupled with a huge base of applications made the PC dominant. In fact you can probably trace it back to one program Lotus 123. This early spreadsheet sold more PCs than any other application. I spent the bulk of my professional career dealing with all the problems of Windows and I’m happy to be back on Macs. I still have a Windows PC, but when it finally dies I won’t be replacing it. My recommendation for used Mac hardware is try to get something at least one model year newer than the oldest system supported by the current version of macOS. Apple is pretty good about supporting their older systems and Mojave is the first version of macOS not supported on my 2011 iMac which is still running strong on High Sierra.
Linux is a very capable operating system, but very difficult to support. Each distribution is different and often hardware vendors have little or no interest in writing suitable drivers. I’ve used a variety of LINUX systems and they typically required quite a bit of tinkering.

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Thanks for this update. I was just about to buy the Windows version, but I guess not! I have it on an iPad Pro and Audulus is a very welcome addition to that platform.

My main platform is Windows. I use Studiomux, a tool that turns my iPad into a Windows vst and lets me use iOS synths and effects in Windows. I haven’t tried Audulus yet in that setting (I just bought it yesterday) but will be interested to see if that’s an avenue for integrating Audulus into a Windows production environment.

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I use Studiomux on my Mac and I’ve been pretty happy with it. Latency can be a bit of an issue in some cases, but overall I find it’s a useful tool.

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Thanks for the tip about this studiomux thing!

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That’s a shame. I can understand needing to keep development more streamlined though. I hope you reconsider one day. :slight_smile:

I think the use case for these is wider. Touch screen support on windows is better and this goes well with the ios version. Also we are now starting to see lots of micro high powered diy PC devices coming out which could potentially run audulus in custom hardware boxes.

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FWIW, supporting niche-software on multiple platforms is a tough tough ask both from the coding and the development side. Supporting 4 platforms and doing them all well is really tough and often not financially feasible for a small shop.

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Yeah that’s basically what it comes down to - more and better features, or spending time keeping up with OS updates that break the software and/or make it tough to be backwards compatible.

This was always a big dream for me - basically you could make guitar pedals and standalone synths powered by Audulus. Although it’s a super cool use, it’s ultimately a really small portion of the actual market that’s out there buying synth software. As Taylor had told me, he didn’t quit working at Pixar so he could do boring maintenance coding - Audulus is a passion and he doesn’t want to kill the desire to work on it by doing the plumbing version of coding.

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Tough decision. Focus in product management is one of its many disciplines that is hard to make, but almost always produces the best results.

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Will Audulus 4 work properly in MacOS launched on VMWare?

VMWare can’t run OS X on anything other than a Mac without significant intervention to make your env a pseudo-hackintosh. It is a TERRIBLE process I will not attempt again. I doubt @taylor would be willing to offer support to such a setup as well, but you are certainly welcome to try. Chances are pretty good that if you have hacked together a [virtual] Mac OS setup that will run A3, A4 will probably also run fine, but again, no guarantees, and you will be largely left to your own wits to solve any issues encountered. :confused:

Actually I run VMWare on Windows host (Intel processor) with MacOS guest without any problem. Most of applications that are not referencing OpenGL are working pretty well. Even Ableton Live 9 can be launched, however it is very easy to reach the moment when it starts lagging even though the sound card is connected directly to the guest’s OS. I don’t know why this happens taking in the consideration the fact that other heavy applications are working fast without significant lags, such as several instances of XCode with Interface Builders and iOS emulators for them and many other apps at the same time. I don’t want to buy Audulus 4 for MacOS until I make sure that everything is going to work smoothly on VMWare. If there is a demo version I’m ready to try.

Because of the way the Apple App Store works, a demo version is difficult to do. In any case I’m sure that only macOS running on a Mac would be supported

I cannot offer any help, unfortunately, but out of curiosity, what hardware are you running that allowed you to install and run macOS without any intervention? I also have VMWare and (one of) the most well equipped model of hardware clone of a 13” MBP (Dell XPS 13) that can be “easily” made into a hackintosh, as it contains nearly all of the same components as a base model 13” Pro.

I thought it would be fun to run a test env on it, but then after installing, I was met with such significant hurdles to overcome just to boot into the installed OS, there was a whole webpage dedicated to all the boot loader workarounds and sneaky little mods that had to be made. I was led to believe in my half a day wasted on research that this was commonplace, and I just said forget it and gave up.

This was around the time of El Capitan or High Sierra, iirc. If there is another version that would run without issue, I would be interested to give it another try (if you don’t mind sharing details of your setup and OS version). :slightly_smiling_face:

You can download an image of installed MacOS from the internet and follow simple instructions that include running a couple of python scripts for unlocking MacOS in VMWare. I’m sure there a lot of torrents with such images on the Internet, I’ve sent one to you in a private message.